What does real ownership actually look like?

Katie and Brian Boland join Ethical Exits to unpack equity washing, employee ownership, governance, stewardship, and a simple framework for looking past the label:

Who owns? Who benefits? Who decides?

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Juliette Blake, Founder and CEO of Moxies, joins Ethical Exits to talk about safe tech for Gen Alpha girls, aligned capital, and what it means to build a company around trust instead of attention extraction. This conversation explores how founders can fund, scale, recapitalize, or exit companies that actually mean something to society without breaking the purpose they were built to protect.

Business owners spend years learning to build a company and almost none are taught how to leave one. Molly McCartan, Managing Partner at The Whisper Group, joins Ethical Exits to talk exit readiness, realistic valuations, earnouts, the right advisory team, and what founders face after the deal closes.

When you walk into your neighborhood hardware store, you're thinking about a leaky faucet, not one of the most fascinating ownership stories in American business. In this special narrative episode of Ethical Exits, Hannah is joined by Matthew Epperson of the Georgia Center for Employee Ownership, who brings her a real acquisition story she's never heard and unpacks it with her in real time.

It follows True Value Hardware from a scrappy cooperative of independent retailers through big-box competition, a private equity deal, bankruptcy, and an unexpected ending that raises big questions about the future of business ownership.